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Ramnor · Aug 08, 2008, 06:55 PM // 18:55

It seems that the "Elite" status of the Norn skills have been relegated to the position of game normalcy so being tagged as an elite any more is (imo) redundant. Given the foregoing would it not be sppropriate to remove it from the "Elite" category since it no longer measures up to the original qualities that gave it that status.

TheodenKing · Aug 08, 2008, 07:02 PM // 19:02

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Originally Posted by Ramnor

It seems that the "Elite" status of the Norn skills have been relegated to the position of game normalcy so being tagged as an elite any more is (imo) redundant.

Redundant means unnecessarily repetitive. I'm not sure what you were after there...

Anyway... Do you really think people should be able to have more than one form skill in their bar? Those skills are still elite, you just need to get used to their new limitations.

GoodApollo1234 · Aug 08, 2008, 07:21 PM // 19:21

I'm not totally sure what you're talking about, but I'm gonna take a stab at it anyway.

The reason the blessings are considered elite is probably more so people can't load all 3 of them on their bar, which would enable organized farming groups to cycle between blessings, and continuously maintain an unfair advantage (which is why everyone hated Ursan in the first place). So stripping the blessings of their elite status would probably be just as bad as re-buffing them.

Besides, in my opinion, they're still good enough to be considered elite. With the proper amount of ingenuity, any well-organized team can still use them to their advantage.

glacialphoenix · Aug 08, 2008, 07:26 PM // 19:26

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Originally Posted by GoodApollo1234

The reason the blessings are considered elite is probably more so people can't load all 3 of them on their bar, which would enable organized farming groups to cycle between blessings, and continuously maintain an unfair advantage (which is why everyone hated Ursan in the first place). So stripping the blessings of their elite status would probably be just as bad as re-buffing them.

Completely agreed. I don't think they're at 'game normalcy' status, either, but I don't know what you define as 'game normalcy'.

MithranArkanere · Aug 08, 2008, 07:35 PM // 19:35

Being demi-gods half of the time is quite elite.
They made them ignore profession and prevented them from being active all the time.
They are now fixed the way I always wanted and mentionend in almost every 'ursan issue' thread.
Leave them be now.

Earth · Aug 08, 2008, 08:31 PM // 20:31

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Peace_and_Harmony

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Mark_of_Protection

Hey there. Because a skill has elite status doesn't mean it's good

Ramnor · Aug 08, 2008, 08:50 PM // 20:50

Ok, I understand where your coming from but where does the unfair advantage enter into the picture. Everyone has or can get those skills. There had to be a better solution then the one that was adopted. I am not going to beat this to death and it's my last bit of discussion on it. As a solo player I like the availability of Ursan. There were better solutions, I'm sure but it would appear the same amount of thought was put into this solution as that which developed the skill sets in the first place. Again just my opinion.

Earth · Aug 08, 2008, 08:55 PM // 20:55

Use a combination of the other PvE skills. For example, ebon vanguard sniper support, which is... nice to say the least.

Note that your first post is actually bloody hard to understand

N1ghtstalker · Aug 08, 2008, 08:56 PM // 20:56

lol you're crying about it's being not elite anymore
it's just even buffed now but it's got a recharge
you want it to be a normal skill so you can throw [assassin's promise] on your bar so you can keep it up all the time

Kook~NBK~ · Aug 08, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42

It's still powerful enough to merit the "Elite Skill" status.

bookworm438 · Aug 09, 2008, 03:21 AM // 03:21

Ursan is still a powerful skill, it just has to be used tactfully. You can't just put ursan on your bar anymore and off you go.

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since it no longer measures up to the original qualities that gave it that status.

I think you are confusing constant upkeep, and button smashing with actual "elite status". Ursan is still a useful skill, just has to be used tactfully. You actually have to put 7 other skills on your bar so while ursan is down, you can still do something.

You and everyone else that used that Ursan are just going to have to get use to the new limitation. You all are just use to the fact that you could load ursan on your bar and then have your cat walk across the keyboard to win.

HawkofStorms · Aug 09, 2008, 03:37 AM // 03:37

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no.

Arduin · Aug 09, 2008, 08:54 AM // 08:54

[Oath Shot] + non elite [Ursan Blessing] = Gogo infinite Ursan Mode.

If I remember correctly, this very aspect was demolished with the latest update.